Chris Cogswell: MUFON and the Mad Scientist

On episode 44 of SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES, Ryan is joined by the newly appointed director of Research for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON), Chris Cogswell. Ryan has been pretty vocal about his thoughts on MUFON in the past, and with news of a new Director of Research, he opened the floor to listeners and beyond the put Chris to the test.

How did Chris get involved with MUFON? What are his credentials? And just exactly what are his plans to completely overhaul the way MUFON handles its research and investigations? His answers were extremely invigorating and refreshing to a MUFON skeptic. 

Ryan and Chris also discuss some very ambitious theories on UFOs and how these theories can be applied to the future of UFO research both in and out of MUFON. They then dive deep into Chris’s own show, THE MAD SCIENTIST PODCAST. 

Guest Bio: Chris Cogswell is a PhD in Chemical Engineering, host of The Mad Scientist Podcast, and the newly appointed Director of Research for MUFON. His research focused on the use of nanomaterials for sustainability improvements to existing systems. He hopes to bring MUFONs methods and ideas into the 21st century, and be critical of the ideas and theories floating around UFOlogy today. You can follow his podcast at


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Opening Theme Song, “Ephemeral Reign” by Per Kiilstofte
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  1. defuse56

    I've been a member of Mufon for the last couple of years, but after the 2017 Symposium, I seriously considered quitting, given the ridiculous confabulations that were passing for serious ufology. Only two things stopped me. I emailed Jan Harzan about it, described my own background and concerns, and got a solid and reasonable reply. And I wrote to Richard Dolan, who in my opinion was the only adult voice in the room during the panel session, and had a good exchange about the whole thing. So I stayed in (my dues were paid anyway). And now here's Chris Cogswell like a breath of fresh air after the sulfurous cloud of toxic vapor that had polluted the Symposium. Since he's looking for academics with advanced degrees, I'm going to email him and volunteer right now. Perhaps I can in some small way aid his quest to bring respectability back to Mufon. So thanks for having him on Ryan; you've done everyone a favor!


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